Do you want to get big?
Do you aim to look buff and get attention?
Is it about functional strength?
Or what?
I train for strength and power - lower reps (1-6), high sets, lots of resistance. I am one of those guys who is strong but not big - dense muscles - due to genetic predisposition and training. No matter how heavy I have pushed I have never been over 78kg.
I look at these puffy dudes who train for size and think to myself "I bet they think they are stronger than me." There is this vain, superficial part of me that wishes that people would look at me and see how impressive I am - isn't that lame. But our society sees puffy dudes as the symbol of strength. This culture of the appearance of strength, flairing out one's lats and sticking your chest out, shits me.
However, then I realise that whilst I claim to train for functional strength and power (functional? who the hell needs to do one armed chin ups in their daily life?) I like to look impressive. Whilst it feels great to be strong and healthy isn't everyone motivated by the prospect of looking impressive or hot?
Do you aim to look buff and get attention?
Is it about functional strength?
Or what?
I train for strength and power - lower reps (1-6), high sets, lots of resistance. I am one of those guys who is strong but not big - dense muscles - due to genetic predisposition and training. No matter how heavy I have pushed I have never been over 78kg.
I look at these puffy dudes who train for size and think to myself "I bet they think they are stronger than me." There is this vain, superficial part of me that wishes that people would look at me and see how impressive I am - isn't that lame. But our society sees puffy dudes as the symbol of strength. This culture of the appearance of strength, flairing out one's lats and sticking your chest out, shits me.
However, then I realise that whilst I claim to train for functional strength and power (functional? who the hell needs to do one armed chin ups in their daily life?) I like to look impressive. Whilst it feels great to be strong and healthy isn't everyone motivated by the prospect of looking impressive or hot?
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Re: Why are you training?
Fri, July 13, 2007 - 2:18 PMI train to be stronger - looking strong is just a secondary benifit. I train in MMA, so if I can move people around in the clinch or on the ground easier, than it's all worth it. -
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Re: Why are you training?
Fri, July 13, 2007 - 3:49 PMI actually started training with the intention of being able to roll with the strong dudes in MMA, along the lines of "strength but no size" power lift style. Aka, squats, pulls, handstand push ups and little else.
Eventually, it stopped working, so I decided to get bigger. That helped a lot. Then it stopped, so I started throwing in more bodybuilding style (doggcrapp, which is really power training using rest pause on bodybuilding style exercises), which in turn seemed to make me both stronger and bigger. My latest kick (as of 3 weeks ago) is running (or, presently, shuffling along quickly), because over the years I've been strength training, I'd only occasionally torment myself with interval training, and being 210 and in crappy cardio shape is no fun. Being 200+ with a 7 minute mile (which I did as a cigarette smoking 125lb 15 year old) would be epic. I'd be like a bull.
I used to be more of a "dogged determination" kind of guy, but I'm finding now that change is good; you can make huge gains, and they carry over. I'll probably never go back to MMA, as I'm too old, and the injuries the old guys would suffer look like no fun to me. Mostly, it's about being superhuman in as many dimensions as possible. Like Socrates said, "No citizen has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training.... What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable."
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Re: Why are you training?
Fri, July 13, 2007 - 2:47 PMHow strong are you?
How big are you?
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Re: Why are you training?
Fri, July 13, 2007 - 3:25 PMOver the last year or so I lost 90lbs. It was a great feat, but I am still *out of shape* - now I want definition AND strength. -
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Re: Why are you training?
Sat, July 14, 2007 - 8:57 AMBesides functional and balanced strength from all angles I also want the stamina and wind to use that strength. I want my body to be able for action or play at a moments notice without breaking down too quickly. I especially want to compensate and slow the ravages of aging. I've increased my strength every year for the last 20 years.
I like to think in terms of relative strength. How strong can I be, pound for pound? I tend to look at my PRs (personal records) in ratio to my bodyweight.
My bodyweight is currently 197 lbs. Some of my lifts are below, none are especially impressive , but I'm proud of them.
I finally got my clean and jerk, and snatch barely up to my bodyweight. I would like to be able to military press BW.
I bench press a bit over 1.5 X BW, not that interested in this lift.
My deadlift is only 2 X BW. I incurred an injury before I could go further
I would really like to be able to do a one-armed pullup, but so far the most I can do is a regular pullup + 75 lbs.
Got up to 85 lbs in dips.
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Re: Why are you training?
Tue, July 31, 2007 - 10:53 AMI'm a certified Tae Kwon Do instructor, but due to different circumstances, (life happens), I stop teaching and training, so after three years of complete inactivity, I found myself gasping for air after a couple fly’s of stairs.
From someone who received a special recognition as the "Best Conditioning" tester, along with my Black Belt certification and among 150 fierce and determined individuals, it felt like I was a failure.
So I would say that they are several things combined here, number one, I realized that I'm getting old, number two I want to look good, because let's face it, we like to look attractive for the ladies, and if anybody says different is a lying sack of sh..., and number three, coming from a Martial Arts background, strength and conditioning, could be very well determine the survivor on a real life confrontation.
So being able to move with speed and power, like Monkey Boy describe, it's key for survival.
Plus you feel good, you don't get sick that often , yada, yada, yada..........
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Re: Why are you training?
Wed, January 23, 2008 - 10:56 AMI work out for all the usual reasons: health, sports ability, freedom from injury (to a degree!) and of course ego.
But as impetus for the workout, I use fantasy. Yeah, that's right, I read the Conan stories by Robert E. Howard. No, I don't "think I'm Conan" but the stories and feats of the famous barbarian are certainly inspiring.
I am right now focusing on climbing a wall, say 8" high. What are the components for the climb, assuming that you don't "walk" against the wall as you go up? Probably a good standing vertical jump, for starters. If you can do a muscle-up, then the wall climb should be easy. A progression for this would include dips, pullups and feet-raised pushups.
Another "barbarian" feat is the "Gorilla press" hoisting a man over your head. The O-lifts are good for that. I use a set of boulders in my backyard for that.
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Re: Why are you training?
Thu, October 2, 2008 - 6:13 PMI train to get functionally strong,and the muscle development is secondary.
